Saturday, August 27, 2016

EDIS Amherst Chapter August 2016

Emily Dickinson International Society, Amherst Chapter  Poetry Conversation
Topic: Fascicle 1, Sheet 1
Facilitated by Lois Kackley
27 August 2016

“Whatever else Dickinson intended in leaving at least 40 hand-bound books for our ‘delight,’ “ says Eleanor Higginbotham’s Introduction to, Reading The Fascicles of Emily Dickinson, “they are ..the most important clue for reading the poems..
-Eleanor Heginbotham, Dwelling in Possibilities: Reading the Fascicles of Emily Dickinson, 2003, Ohio State University Press

Lois. [ Referring to Heginbotham’s book] I thought it was good enough to launch us on our little enterprise.

Jeff. Are you planning on going through the fascicles in order?

Lois. Yes. As far as the way Dickinson preserved them. Of all of Dickinson’s poems, almost half were in fascicles.

Greg. Yeah. 810 poems.

Lois. Close to half were unbound, or loose. Loose poems can be anything that was retrieved from a recipient, that wasn’t bound. It could have been a candy wrapper in somebody’s drawer, or may have had a poem in the body of a letter. When Jay Leyda wrote his book, he did a tremendous amount of reaching out to a gazillion people who might have one, and he found a lot of them that way, according to Polly. So, the poems at the end of the book [Chris Miller, Emily Dickinson’s Poems as she Preserved Them, 2006, the Belknap Press of Harvard University Press) are from a variety of sources, unlike the fascicles and the unbound sheets.

Judith. Were the fascicles found in the dresser drawer? Or the Trunk?

Greg. There’s conflicting information about where the poems were found. The story about them being found in the bottom dresser drawer is apocryphal/

Jane. Yes, that’s what we used to tell visitors. We told so many lies. [laughter]

Greg. Vinnie said she found them in a locked box. Martha said the were found in “boxes and drawers, and Maggie Maher said that some of them were stored in her – Maggie’s – trunk for safe keeping. The unbound sheets were found – and I don’t know what they mean by this – but they were found in such a way as to make it look like she organized them as a fascicle, so they’re called sets.

Victoria. So she grouped them together in a certain order.

Greg. Yes, but I don’t know how.

Victoria. How long did she do the fascicles?

Greg. 1858 to 1865.

Lois. OK, as I wrote in my email, the first three poems were separated by Franklin, but they were not separated by Johnson. [displays photocopy of the manuscript; see https://acdc.amherst.edu/view/asc:15595]. Here, it shows why one person would think it was three different poems and another person would think it was the same poem.

Victoria. With just a stanza break it could have appeared [inaudible]

Greg. In most of the fascicles she draws a horizontal line between poems – and she did not between these three. For that reason alone Franklin thought they were separate poems, starting from number 21 in Franklin. Johnson thought they were all one poem, and that’s what I think, too.

Lois. We can get into this when we talk about it, but one of the fascinating things abut this little group that we start with is – if you look at the way she wrote it, obviate parade is set off. She brought it in almost as if to give a title for what’s underneath it. It’s anybody’s guess why she did that. She put a big ol’ fat period there, too.

Victoria. Another signal.

Lois. Yeah, another signal that, if you want to make this into one poem, go ahead, but take two or three deep breaths before you do. So, it’s just kind of fun. I just wanted to say before we get going, Emily Dickinson’s gift for populated loneliness gave her the freedom to explore what Suzanne Juhasz called “The undiscovered continent” of her mind, and to assess the thread between inner nature and outer nature, or if you will, the link between .– the “aged bee” and the earth that some tell of. So, looking at this first poem, let’s read them separately, keeping in mind that anybody’s free to group them if they want to.

Robert reads.
The Gentian weaves her fringes—
The Maple's loom is red—
My departing blossoms
Obviate parade.
                        Fr21/J18/M33
[ To hear this poem read aloud, go to https://youtu.be/ENQIfRCppvE ] ]

Lois. What do you make of the significance that she gives to that little term?

Robert. What was coming up for me was, translating My departing blossoms as her poetry. They obviate parade because they’re not seen.

Lois. They don’t need to be seen. To obviate is to render something unnecessary, or less important.

Jane. But it assumes that there’s quite a wind. You would have to have to have that parade of leaves blowing. Interesting that she doesn’t mention that – any kind of wind.

Harrison. Is there anything special about the gentian?

Greg. A beautiful purple.

Victoria. It grows late. That’s a fringed gentian, which is very hard to find these days. It blooms in the fall, and it’s a sun-loving flower. In those days the fields were more open and we have these forests now so it’s pretty hard on the habitat/

Judith. I love her little poem, though – “I had a little gentian/ It tried to be a rose.” It’s a wonderful poem for anyone working with kids and late bloomers.

Adriana. William Cullen Bryant wrote a poem – I don’t remember the whole poem – but I know he wrote one called The Pink Gentian. I didn’t have a chance to look it up, but I don’t know why this particular flower was chosen by her.

Harrison. She mentions Bryant in another poem.

Adriana. Oh, does she?

Greg. “Besides the Autumn poets sing/ A few prosaic days” … “Gone—Mr. Bryant's "Golden Rod"—/ And Mr. Thomson's ‘sheaves.’ “

Victoria. The fringes are so pretty. They’re delicate little … if you see a gentian now, it’s blue, but it’s a bottle gentian and it’s curved shaped without that fringe that she’s talking about – but that close observation – she was such a naturalist.

Lois. Well, one of the things that I think she gained from her separateness was the freedom that gave her mind free range and it often landed on some of these little details that the rest of us tend to overlook. Well, what is she talking about here? What’s going on? What’s the point of these four lines, or do we need to get into the larger poem to figure that out? Is there something discrete about these four lines?

Harrison. Are her blossoms the same as the gentian, or is she saying that my blossoms are different from the gentian’s blossom because they obviate parade.

Victoria. I think the way Robert read it, with the emphasis on My, it seems like they’re separate; her departing blossoms are different.

Jeff. Yes, that’s the impression I get. The Maple's loom is red – that’s in contrast to her blossoms.

Lois. But we’re in fall, right?

Greg. You’ve got this beautiful blue gentian, the bright red maples – who needs a parade? Departing is an interesting word to use with anything but people who have passed away. We talk of “our dear departed.”

Jeff. Yes. From a 27-year old, talking about my departing blossoms – not that we necessarily take her as the subject of the poem –

Greg. “So has a Daisy vanished/ From the fields today.”

Lois. Yeah. I’m just now thinking about what you said. Is she talking about the summer flowers as My Blossoms – that the color of the fall and the flowers like the gentian obviate the need to grieve over summer. The maple is so red and the gentian is so blue .. is the what you’re thinking?

Jeff. This poem reminds me really of Franklin 319 – Of Bronze and Blaze.

Lois. Yeah, well, I just wanted to throw that out there. “I’m not going to be depressed about summer being over; I’ve got the red maple and I’ve got the blue gentian, and what they represent of fall.

Greg. I’ll suggest that the maple and the gentian are the parade, and that, because her blossoms have departed – if these are departed friends, that’s what obviates parade.

Harrison. It rained on her parade. [laughter]

Judith. I just think of the poem This is a Blossom of the Brain. I wondered if it was poems that she had sent to other people. Departing poems.

Robert. After, she wouldn’t see them.

Judith. She wouldn’t see them.

Lois. Well, let’s move on to the next poem, and see if the larger poem – if this is an introduction to the larger body of the poem.

Greg. In the second poem, someone has departed

Lois. Well, it’s a tricky poem. Who would like to read this poem?

Jane reads.
A brief, but patient illness—
An hour to prepare,
And one below this morning
Is where the angels are—
It was a short procession,
The Bobolink was there—
An aged Bee addressed us—
And then we knelt in prayer—
We trust that she was willing—
We ask that we may be.
Summer—Sister—Seraph!
Let us go with thee!
                        Fr22/J18/M33
[ To hear this poem read aloud, go to https://youtu.be/ENQIfRCppvE ]

Lois. There’s a little syntactical trickery here.

Greg. Where?

Lois. Like a lot of them. To me, this section of the poem is a love song pretending to be a dirge.

Jane. It doesn’t express the sorrow as deeply as some of her other poems.

Lois. Or a celebration – pretending to be a funeral, because, until we take in the whole poem, there’s all this language of bereavement, isn’t there, or a hint of bereavement? It was a brief illness, and we only had an hour to prepare for he leaving. Then we’re in this short procession. We’ve got the bobolink, who is the chorister [laughs].

Victoria. Well, she doesn’t really get to she, to the person herself until further down in the poem. I feel that there’s a distance from the actual person who died. She had a brief illness – my patient friend – or anything like that – it feels kind of distant.

Lois. Well, because there’s no subject. It starts right out. A brief, but patient illness—, I mean, it’s all suggestive. I’s a patient illness. There’s no “patient,” but we’re tricked into the images of illness and death words that are not saying what they normally would indicate.

Victoria. A patient illness – that’s just a play on the word patient.

Greg. “Patient illness” is just brilliant.

Victoria. It’s not an enduring illness.

Greg. There used to be a casket company that I would pass on a train out of Boston. They displayed a big sign which people objected to and they eventually took down. It read, “Drive Carefully. We can wait.” Death is patient like that. Tuberculosis is patient like that. “I’m going to get you. I can wait.”

Harrison. The illness is patient. It can take it’s time, and the patient is patient. The patient endures the illness.

Greg. What you and Lois are reacting to, and I think I agree, is the tone of the poem compared to the subject. If it’s a funeral …

Lois. Is it a funeral? Who thinks this is a funeral?

Harrison. I tend to think it’s a funeral for summer. It’s very characteristic, after Indian summer, of it ending just like that. Summer was with us, next thing it’s gone.

Greg. Who’s “below?”

Jeff. I think it could just as well be a wedding.

Lois. What?

Jeff. I mean if you want to look on this sardonically. [laughter].

Victoria. What if Summer means that it was someone who was in the summertime of their life, and they were struck

Greg. How can you interpret And one below this morning/ Is where the angels are any other way than somebody being dead and buried?

Victoria. Yeah. Yeah. Taken in the summertime of her life. It must be someone close to her, because she calls her “sister. Not in blood, but ..”

Judith. It doesn’t sound like it was somebody close to her.

Victoria. To call someone a sister?

Judith. Yeah, but it doesn’t have the sorrow of somebody close to her dying. I figured it was someone she didn’t know well. She just was observing. But, she does say We trust that she was willing, and that’s a question that was a big question at that time. Are you willing to die? When Ben Newton died she wrote, “was he willing to die?” Had they professed their faith … were they willing to go? So, that grounds it for me.

Harrison. And, we hope that we may be, when our time comes. [general agreement]. I’m, still clinging to summer.

Lois. Anthropomorphizing summer. If you do that, you can entertain thoughts of summer whether or not summer is willing to leave. We don’t want to feel like it’s willing to leave us because that’s where our angels are.

Harrison. We also want to feel that it was willing to leave, because that was in indication of grace.

Lois. When she says We ask that we may be, it’s like she’s trying to be willing to move into fall – to let summer go.

Harrison. And, summer comes and goes every year, and we should accept the fact that summer will return again, and go away, and come back.

Lois. We don’t always realize how profound an affect the seasons have on us unless a tragedy or something takes away your ability to experience any real joy, and then, when a new season comes it’s like an assault on your senses because your senses are all broken down. I think Dickinson experienced that intensity that the rest of us don’t.
[The recording device shut off accidentally at this point - alas!]

Tuesday, July 5, 2016

EDIS Amherst Chapter 25 June 2016

Emily Dickinson International Society, Amherst Chapter  Poetry Conversation
Facilitated by Lois Kackley
25 June 2016


Jeff reads.
A Dew sufficed itself --
And satisfied a Leaf
And felt "how vast a destiny" --
"How trivial is Life!"

The Sun went out to work --
The Day went out to play
And not again that Dew be seen
By Physiognomy

Whether by Day Abducted
Or emptied by the Sun
Into the Sea in passing
Eternally unknown

Attested to this Day
That awful Tragedy
By Transport's instability
And Doom's celerity.
                 - J1437/Fr1372/M519

[ To hear this poem read aloud, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40bNXsP-RcM ]

Lois. Well, the first thing that I notice in this poem is something we’ve spent quite a bit of time with when we were looking at Cristanne’s [Miller] A Poet’s Grammar, the shocking attribution of emotion in one of the smallest visible aspects of nature, a drop of dew. To attribute such extraordinary emotion to such a finite point of nature – with the naked eye you couldn’t get much smaller than a dew. And the contrast in that minute element with the broad and deep emotion conveyed is part of her genius. The poem I read on Robert Burns, where he talks as if he is –“Sing on, sweet thrush, upon the leafless bough” – even in this, as we were talking about, it’s not so unusual for a poet to see her fate in an aspect of nature … but Dickinson goes several steps further when she attribute the extraordinary emotions to an element of nature that is not even sentient. Any thoughts on that as a technique in this poem before we get into other aspects of it?

Harrison. She insists on taking the smallest element and treating it as an individual, not just one of many identical ones. “I wish I were a Hay.” [ from The Grass so little has to do].

Victoria. In that poem she elevates the dew to the realm of pearls that are so fine that a duchess wouldn’t be ashamed of wearing them. So there’s an elevation of this microscopic H2O to something magnified to something royal, important.

Harrison. She associates that royal elevation with the afterlife. “Wait til the majesty of death.” Sometimes something low in position becomes something important.

Jeff. It also starts out the poem with a wonderful sense of playfulness. Attributing to a dew this pretentiousness and self-satisfaction. A Dew sufficed itself. This silly little drop of water with all this grand …

Greg. Wow. I took it really seriosly.

Jeff. Oh, you did?

Greg. Yeah. [laughs nervously]

Lois. In what way?

Greg. “how vast a destiny" - "How trivial is Life!" The universe in microcosm. It’s real. Wow, that’s a different take on it.

Lois. Well, I don’t think it’s either/or, I think it’s both/and.

Greg. I hate it when people say that. [laughter]

Lois. Well, it’s both playful and profound is what I mean.

Victoria, Yeah, yeah.

Greg. Yeah, but is the dew being self-satisfied and vain? Is that what she really put in here?

Lois. Yeah, however -

Harrison. It’s also accurate.

Lois. Accurate, but when you say self-satisfied we – and I think Human beings have for a very long time – interpreted that as an improper condition to be in. To be self-satisfied is to elicit censure from your fellows, right?

Victoria. Oh, because it’s not Christian humility?

Lois. Yeah, yeah, but the very act of taking a dew and conveying this quality almost demands that you question your moral judgement if you will, of self-satisfaction.

Victoria. And your human place in the universe? If a dew is worth as much as a human, if she elevates this little drop, we’re all little drops.

Lois. Yes precisely. Not to jump ahead but that was my takeaway from this whole poem. Planet Earth is my leaf, and I’m a dew.

Harrison. It reminds me of the poem about the aurora borealis [Of Bronze and Blaze the North tonight - J290/Fr319], “I take vaster attitudes and strut upon my stem.” A connection between herself and the northern lights “infects my simple spirit with taints of majesty.”

Lois. Exactly, and you know, for us, it’s not a big pill to swallow. But, in her day, this is likely one of her very subversive poems, of the demand for self-abnegation and humility from the Christian church.

Greg. This poem?

Lois. I mean, by virtue of the fact that she’s almost making it impossible, if you read the poem and smile at the idea of a dew being self-satisfied – she makes you smile, rather than censure No one would censure a dew for being proud, right? You can’t do it. [laughs] So that whole quality of smiling at pride is perhaps one of Dickinson’s underlying efforts in this poem.

Jeff. I just thought it was meant to be humorous, start to finish.

Lois. Well we would today, Jeff. I think we would today.

Greg. I see that now. I didn’t see that.

Jeff. Now, Attested to this Day/ That awful Tragedy – that’s tongue in cheek.

Victoria. I keep thinking of the water cycle, you know? Except, I think we need some clouds and storms at the end.

Jeff. That’s in the third stanza, Or emptied by the Sun/ Into the Sea.

Victoria. But that awful Tragedy of the Dew evaporating in the heat of the sun [laughs],

Harrison. Is the tragedy being Eternally unknown? What is …

Lois Eternally unknown … Well, back up. We haven’t really looked at anything else. Before we go on, though. How does the Dew know that it has satisfied this leaf?

Victoria. Great alliteration there - sufficed itself --/ And satisfied, Leaf, felt, nice!

Lois. To say that it satisfied a leaf there has to be an observer.

Robert. So, she’s the detailed observer of nature. I go out and see the dew in my strawberry patch every morning and think, well, that’s going to satisfy the leaf, because it’s not raining much. The dew is going to get sucked in by the leaf, so I’m appreciating Emily Dickinson the nature observer there. I think some of the philosophizing does have something to do with what happens to the dew – does it get absorbed by the leaf? Does it get evaporated by the sun? Or is it both?

Lois. But, in any case, it as an observable entity is gone. All gone.

Jeff. But I think the Dew is very proud of having satisfied the leaf. That’s’ how I read it.

Lois. Yeah, but the Dew cannot know that it satisfied the leaf. The dew can’t know if the leaf might still be hungry, or want another dew, right? The perspective, right in the second line, is that of the observer. There’s a speaker in this poem, and the speaker has to observe that it satisfied the leaf. When she says A Dew sufficed itself/ And satisfied a Leaf

Harrison. And felt. She’s attributing feelings of self-consciousness.

Lois. Exactly.

Jeff. Yeah, and "How trivial is Life!" is the Dew’s comment on that silly little leaf, because, “My destiny is vast, as a dew drop.” And, it’s this trivial little thing I do for this trivial little leaf. It’s just bursting with false pride.

Lois. With irony? Well, she’s also borrowing from her observation of how we are, is she not?  Which is kind of fun if you hold that thought as you read the poem. She all along is commenting on human behavior. Who hasn’t had some kind of big success at something and thought their destiny vast – not everyone, for sure. Nevertheless it’s an observable human behavior. So then we get away from the leaf, right? And even the exalted emotion of the dew in the first stanza. Then the observer steps back and looks at the world at play, right?

Jeff. Well, that’s the poet now speaking in the second stanza. It’s not the dew any longer.

Lois. The observer.

Jeff. Yeah, because the dew is done.

Harrison. She’s juxtaposing the act of the Dew to enable the leaf – a little action – to a much grander cycle of nature. Like in The blonde assassin passes on/ The Sun proceeds unmoved [ from Apparently with no surprise, J1624/Fr1668] That’s the big picture. The little picture is that the flower gets beheaded.

Lois. That’s a great comparison.

Greg. That really is. So, the dew is a microcosm of all destiny captured in the last lines. We go from the little dew drop, through the cycles of nature as Harrison says, to the unknown. It seems to have a very profound base to me, even though it’s funny, the Dew imagining that it has a vaster destiny, but in a way, it does.

Lois. Exactly. To itself it does, and you know, maybe the speaker is taking on the role of God. The speaker is Dickinson as God, perhaps, because God would take note of the Dew and also, as you’ve so beautifully described, the grander scheme.

Harrison. “His eye is on the sparrow.”

Lois. Yes.

Jedd. Nothing would be Eternally unknown to God, though. That’s the mystery – what happens after we die. Things are over. It’s unknown.

Lois. And she did put a period there. That’s interesting.

Jeff. Lois, I very much appreciate, and I hope you’ll continue doing this, a Cris Miller reference. [Emily Dickinson’s Poems as She Preserved Them, by Cristanne Miller]. That encouraged me to go and look at my brand new shiny Cris Miller, because it’s so accessible now, to see these variants, and the last two lines of this poem go like this. In Transport’s exegesis/ And Hopes necrology.

Lois. Attested to this Day/ That awful Tragedy/ In Transport’s exegesis/ And Hopes necrology.

Greg. What’s necrology, the study of death?

Harrison. Yeah. The records of death. It’s a legal kind of term she’s using here. She’s attesting to something. She’s going against the anonymity of the dew by attesting to its presence. And in one moment she says Transport and Doom. Those are two [inaudible] subjects in her poems. In one she has “The Transport of the Aim.” Transport’s an intense emotion that you get when you have a sudden insight or something.

Jeff. And transport – I’ve read that in both the sense that you’re saying, but all so the sense of transport as the sun vaporizes water, which is what we’ve been talking about – the hydrologic cycle. That’s a kind of transport also, a kind of physical – transporting – moving.

Victoria. It’s awesome, once you get the idea of it. This whole thing, this system that’s set up for us.

Lois. For some reason I keep thinking of that poem where she ends up saying “Soto, explore thyself!” To me, that’s so self-revelatory, in that exploring herself was part of the reason for some of the themes that we see recurring. And I keep asking, what is there in this poem that might divulge some of what she’s saying of self-awareness. Do we learn anything about ourself in this poem? Or, can we say if Dickinson is learning anything about herself as she writes this poem?

Jeff. It certainly contains that thought, Soto, examine thyself. That first stanza’s all about that, I think. The two words there, A Dew sufficed itself/ And satisfied a Leaf, the two words are synonyms, basically. “I’m enough, and I did enough for the leaf. I’m such an ego that, whatever that leaf needed, I satisfied that leaf, I took care of it.”

Harrison. That sounds orgasmic. “Are you satisfied?” [laughter]

Lois. [laughing] That’s right. It’s like, “Mission accomplished!”

Robert. I wonder if you could read this poem as an ironical statement of the pathetic fallacy, looking at dew and then leaping to the deep philosophical lessons that you get from observing dew, and doing it all tongue-in-cheek. “Please don’t try to leap to deep philosophical conclusions from observations of nature.]

Harrison. Reductio ad absurdum.

Lois. Right, except that there’s so much there! It is a joke, if you want to take it just as a joke, but it also touches on some of the most difficult assignments that we have as humans looking at the big picture as opposed to our tiny little tyrannies.

Harrison. I agree, it’s a very serious poem. It’s fun, but it’s serious.

Greg. She uses this short meter and alliteration to capture this very playful tone, which seems to contrast, in a way at least, with the subject matter. That’s kind of a signature of hers, too.

Robert. The poem resonated with me with A spider sewed at night. There’s the word Physiognomy, but also the philosophizing from minute observation.

Lois. She put A Dew sufficed first on this unbound sheet, before she added The Spider as an Artist, and Winter is good. I often wonder if some of these thoughts that are conveyed poetically are the result of an intention that she brought with her in that observation, or if, in observing it, she feels confronted by what she sees of human experience in these close-up looks at things that are all around her.

Victoria. I bet it works both ways. Sometimes it works one way and she has it inside of her and it’s captured in that one incident, or the other way around. She’d see the dew and she’d see the whole world in it – all the tragedy – that dew drying up and losing all the color and the sparkle of it.

Lois. And observing her own response to that, saying, why do I see a tragedy here? … when nobody else does [laughs]. So, it’s fun to play with.

Victoria. I wonder if that kind of expression was so common in her as she was relating to her brother, her sister, and they would say, “Oh, that’s just Emily.” And maybe that’s why they were dismissive of her writing life. It was probably a blessing that she had Sue and she had Mable who didn’t do that. Because, they had that in them, too. They didn’t have the genius, but they could connect to that in her.

Harrison. Helen Hunt Jackson

Victoria. Oh, yes, right, of course, yeah.

Lois. The next poem to me is just pure music.

Robert. The second stanza’s not in Franklin, why is that?

Lois. That is interesting. All I know is, it appeared in four stanzas on the unbound sheet. Now, Franklin may have had some kind of information that caused him to leave it out. [There are three manuscripts, two fair copies and one semifinal packet copy. (Johnson variorum)]

Greg. Is it the third stanza that’s missing?

Robert. The second stanza is missing in 1104.

Lois. If you will all indulge me, I’m going to read this poem.
The Cricket sang
And set the sun
And Workmen finished, one by one
Their seam the Day upon.
The Bee had perished from the Scene
And distant as an Order done
And doubtful as report upon
The Multitudes of Noon -

The low Grass loaded with the Dew,
The Twilight stood as Strangers do
With Hat in Hand, polite and new,
To stay as if, or go -

A vastness, as a neighbor, came -
A wisdom without face or name -
A peace, as hemispheres at home
And so the night became -

                        - J1104/Fr1104/M493

[Hear Lois read this poem at https://youtu.be/7vo_3yj4m9I]

I don’t know what you could say about it that she hasn’t said. Now, in this poem, the elements of nature are not imbued with self-reflection. The speaker remains in tact throughout this poem as far as I have observed. Now of course the playfulness of the cricket setting the sun, if we get analytical, is probably part of the magic. But the cricket, the bee, the grass – she chooses the three elements to describe the sunset, but she doesn’t remain at sunset. It’s not just a pure observation of a sunset. There’s a movement involved, isn’t there, a progression.

Jeff. Transport. Yes.

Lois. There’s that word again.

Jeff. I’ve always loved that image, The twilight leaned as strangers do/ With hat in hand, polite and new,/ To stay as if, or go. It’s just delightful. This poem is so calming. There’s no sense of any kind of conflict in it – any kind of absurdity or BS. It just builds to this vastness and wisdom and peace.

Lois. Yet, she pulls on our collective emotion and our collective observation of workmen and as you say, strangers with hat in hand. Now there she treats humility with real reverence.

Jeff. Yes! That’s right! Yeah. These are people without any pretention.

Lois. The Bee had perished, but there’s nothing sad.

Victoria. It was just time for the bee to go. [laughter] The day is done. God’s orders are over for today.

Harrison. And the last line is, the night became, not the night began or anything.

Jeff. It loves that word, because, it operates on more than one level. It became night is conventional; it turns into something. But it’s almost as if it’s an archaic way of saying to become. It be-came. It’s almost an Anglo-Saxon way of saying “to have come.” It just feels that way, I don’t know if it really …

Lois. Well, she plays with the element of time here, and paints this picture of when you’re enjoying the sunset and all of a sudden you find you’re in the dark. It’s like, “Oh, when did it get dark?”

Harrison. “How it set I know not.”

Jeff. It’s got the abruptness of that wonderful poem, This quiet Dust. It’s just going on about life until that very last line, and then there’s an abruptness, “And cease, like these.”

Lois. Exactly, and you can’t make that sunset last any longer, no matter how much you’re loving it.

Victoria. I don’t get that feeling from that last line – that abruptness. With the word became, it seems to me that it’s like the lovely letting out of the last breath of day, and the night became, and the day melts into the night. I think she might have put a period there if she wanted to. I don’t get A vastness, as a neighbor, came.

Harrison. She’s embracing the normality of this vastness that comes with darkness. It’s as familiar as a neighbor.

Victoria. Oh, I see – familiar, and unthreatening, as the dark descends.

Jeff. And it also stands in contrast to the strangers, which is kind of interesting. The Twilight stood as Strangers do. You know, a stranger stands in your house with hat in hand, but the vastness brings it back to this more restful … unthreatening … familiar….

Lois. Well I’m glad you said that about the vastness, because I was thinking that this was a purely Dickinson experience that a neighbor, or any human being, would be so vast. That’s part of why she became more reclusive, because she felt the vastness in every person. I like your reading of it.

Victoria. You mean like the complexity of each person? My interaction with each person would be overwhelming.

Lois. Yes, overwhelming. Because her perception is so much more sensitive. I mean, we all need each other, so we sort of condition ourselves, right? to interact on a pretty surface level. But Dickinson refused to do that, but the flip side of that was that she was forever picking up on vibes that were bigger.

Victoria. But, your interpretation I don’t think really fits here.

Lois. It may not. That’s why I say I’m glad to hear Harrison’s reading, but I just wanted to share that because that’s how I’ve always, always heard this. Like this vastness, like every human being to me

Greg. Well, listen to this other usage of it in the poem, The Mountains stood in Haze - / The Valleys stopped below; it’s a similar description. The last verse is
So soft upon the Scene
The Act of evening fell
We felt how neighborly a Thing
Was the Invisible.

Lois. That’s a great comparison. [general agreement]

Harrison. What’s the number of that one?

Greg. 1225 [Franklin]

Victoria. You know, this is a time when there weren’t street lights, and people didn’t have all of this ambient light, so you could really observe the whole process of each day ending on a summer day, and that light, especially at the end of the day when the crickets were singing, would be a real gift. It’s always really hard for me to imagine, myself, when I try to project back in time to what it was like here with no street lights , and the quietness! You’d here a little bit of clip-clopping along the dirt roads. You wouldn’t hear engines, or cars. You might have heard the cow mooing in the barn and things like that, but it was so much quieter.

Harrison. [sings lines from “Love’s Old Sweet Song] Just a song at twilight, when the lights are low/ And the flickering shadows softly come and go.

Lois. Who wrote that?

Harrison. It’s an old standard folk song.

Lovely. Well, I don’t hear it now, but as a child, when we would visit aunts and uncles on the farm, you’d go to bed with the windows open, and even then, because we always lived in the city, going to the country - there were street lights, but they were way off, and to go to sleep listening to the crickets – it’s just a different experience altogether.

Victoria. Didn’t Woody Allen make a comment somewhere that he didn’t like going to the country because the crickets were so noisy they drove him crazy? [laughter]

[interlude]

Jeff. She’s describing a momentary feeling, but I’m sure everyone has had it, a summer’s evening, when you get that sense of vastness, and [inaudible], and peace. It’s just in the air – and it goes quickly. But, it’s one of those human experiences where it would be really hard to explain what it is about that moment that grips us so much. It’s like those mysterious moments in music – they’re just as deep in you as anything can get. In that case it’s sounds. What’s doing that?

Victoria. Ancient, ancient stuff there I think, embedded in our DNA. Our deepest human response.

Robert. I was experiencing this poem as something that would work with my three-year-old granddaughter. The sense that the crickets sang, and the crickets are setting the sun, and the workmen are sewing up the day. It’s a kind of reversal of causation, where the crickets are putting things to bed and the workmen are putting things to bed.

Greg. What are hemispheres at home gran’pa? [general hilarity]

Robert. [As to a child] Really, I’m so glad you asked that question. In your home you experience the whole world. The hemispheres, the whole world, comes into your home.

Greg. Thank You!

Lois. That’s a nice reading.

Greg. Yes, I really didn’t get that, so … I thought of another poem where the neighbor is  more like what you [Lois] were describing - What mystery pervades a well! The rest of that first verse is
That water lives so far —
A neighbor from another world
Residing in a jar
That’s more like the way you were first reading it, isn’t it? It’s more mysterious. That’s a different kind of a neighbor.

Harrison. The water cycle.